tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16745091.post113348082346478772..comments2023-05-11T13:09:49.760-04:00Comments on Differences & Repetitions: Naturalism in LefebvreTed Striphashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09277064012517739981noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16745091.post-64551221523838208962007-04-07T09:16:00.000-04:002007-04-07T09:16:00.000-04:00Hi Kent,For whatever it's worth, I read the introd...Hi Kent,<BR/><BR/>For whatever it's worth, I read the introduction of Lefebvre's <I>Production of Space</I> as programmatic for the work as a whole and the rest of the book largely as an elaboration. The basic message, though, is that to change social relations, you can't just change social relations: you must also change how people relate to and understand space. This corresponds to Lefebvre's insights from the <I>Critique of Everyday Life</I> project, in which he says, there, that to change social relations you must chnage people's practiced and experienced relationships to time. It's an old philosophical argument, really, but one updated for the 20th century.<BR/><BR/>If you're having trouble, you might want to troll some of the secondary literature that's emerging on Lefebvre. Rob Shield's <I>Lefebvre, Love, and Struggle</I> is a standard, if sometimes contested, work. Another is Stuart Elden's <I>Understanding Henri Lefebvre</I>. I particularly like the latter.<BR/><BR/><BR/>As for Lefebvre and Deleuze's relationship: that's a more difficult matter. It's unclear to what extent, if any, the two influenced one another (one one influenced the other). I find them to be at their closest, though, in Deleuze's <I>D&R</I> and in Lefebvre's <I>Rhythmanalysis,</I> where they both seem to be trying to develop theories of difference without negation. I suspect the question you're asking would make for a quite interesting essay.....Ted Striphashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09277064012517739981noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16745091.post-64437691083611323332007-04-06T13:26:00.000-04:002007-04-06T13:26:00.000-04:00I have a blog called Ultrawild at http://ultrawild...I have a blog called Ultrawild at http://ultrawild.blogspot.com/ which is a locus for the possible exchange of repartees if you are so inclined.<BR/><BR/>Kent Palmer<BR/>palmer@exo.com<BR/>http://think.netkdphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056374263815739268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16745091.post-51975870866444881472007-04-06T13:00:00.000-04:002007-04-06T13:00:00.000-04:00I have just read most of The Production of Space, ...I have just read most of The Production of Space, and I don't understand it very well. Do you understand it? One problem is that the writing is so dispersed that concepts that are central are only peripherally mentioned. Also what is the relation between this work and Deleuze's Difference and Repetition. Who influenced who? Do you understand enough about this book to explain that to me? I have not read the Critique of Everyday life series. So maybe that is the problem.<BR/><BR/>Kent Palmerkdphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14056374263815739268noreply@blogger.com